New Member rule board etc

sometimes it is better for some to make no comments at all
and everyone of us should care...


it was not my intent to offend anyone .. in any way ..with that post
.
i apologize if it did .. and to yu HB .. if yu took it as so ..

it wasnt aimed at you or anyone
. it was .. just a comment .. in reply to a post as yu had done ..
and as yu said that is what the forum is for ...

i was only agreeing with dans statement of not commenting ... and that
it is better to make no comments at all .
i shld have clarified that ..sorry ..

and everyone of us should care ..--- that came from the heart .. i like the tank and the ppl..
i think they are all a great bunch ..

megg23 wrote:

sometimes
it is better for some to make no comments at all ..
and everyone of us should care ..

As for the red, this is a forum and we are friends here,.... or so I thought so it is open for discussion otherwise what's the point in having a place to talk at all. It sounds like you are telling me to shut up.. and I don't like your post! After everyone of my posts in this section as well as when we are at the table you have had something to say, I have let you continue as you should have your own views, and I respect that. But quite frankly you are starting to offend me and this is something I am getting rather tired of. For example, your passive-aggressive bullying, If you are replying only to do this you are the exact kind of player I have no wish to be in a club with.

As for the green, of course I care if I didn't I would not be here. AND I would not be making posts to discuss and/or help nor would I post my views at all. I also would not be replying to you in the form I am right now if I did not care.

Sincerely yours, zzHONEYBEEzz

zzHONEYBEEzz wrote:

The second... Why should a player ever tell another player their reasoning or strategy behind a play or a hand choice? IF we are playing as we would in real cash (which I am), I shouldn't tell nor suggest any of you to tell your strategy same as you shouldn't show your cards unless you are trying for a direct effect (I am guilty of both sometimes, and it's something I have learned and I am working on). As in cash games if someone comments my play I laugh at them or ignore them entirely. Unless I get tilted, which is NOT good, and probably what the other player was hoping for by making said comment! lol. In order to read me you have to figure that part out on your own and adjust your play accordingly. Reading players is a skill you either have or have to develop being a poker player, and let me say, hand analysis sections help with that aspect if you can't figure it out on your own, and not just by reviewing your own hands but also reading the analysis of others. If you were playing at a live cash table, would you yell out "I was drawing because you gave me the odds to do so... It's my favourite hand!... I played it because you are so tight/loose." I know I wouldn't. Anyhow just my opinion.

In live play I try to talk a bit to the players immediately next to me. Since they have the most effect on your decisions frequently it helps.

As to showing cards, if I have been on a hot streak and people are suspecting me of overplaying I may show a very good hand every once in a while to make bluffing easier. I only show bluffs to try to tilt someone though.

OK...I've only read pages 5&6 but it sounds little like some drama brewing , I may be stirring the pot or I may be helping as a peace maker either way you guys can just tell me to STFU or agree with me , but I fell like putting a couple cents in....so here it goes..;

I've been a member of this club for quite some time now , since we played for real money here back when PS opened up the Home Games . The whole reason Eff started this club was to have good solid games with good people that have a passion for the game and enjoy each others company while at the tables. With a no BS kinda crap you have to put up with in open tourneys with all the name calling and drama . If someone made bad calls or chased and caught advise was giving and the person was told nice catch but not a wise decision to chase draws cause you'll wind up losing more money than winning by playing that style of poker. It was also a place for guys like me to strive to play better poker and to be able to say hey I got so and so's (a successful PSOer) bounty last night or I outplayed them in one hand during the game. I feel it's the best home game at PS to improve on my game and to better my skills.After Black Friday , and we could still play but for play money , everyone still played the game like they were playing with real money. the club lost some people, as far as frequently playing in the game cause some people(NONUS players) felt their time was wasted playing just for play money , and their was new people(USplayers) joining the club cause home games and play money tourney's was all they had left to hang on to PS and the good people/players here , even the donks were pleasurable to play with even though one might not agree with their style of play , but everyone had fun none of the drama or bickering at the tables . The bickering took place in the PSO , forum which there was a lot of drama there so everyone took it as a grain of salt , whether you paid attention to it or not . As for myself the only drama I really payed attention to was the "Darkman and" ...shit what was his name ahhh the guy that always corrected every1s puctuation...damm I can't remember right now...anyways....I getting off track here , even that drama got old and due to me finding the Merge Network to play at and other forums I stop frequenting the drunk tank , not because of unhappiness , but lot of US tankrs journeyed places to play for real money , which the whole goal of the Tank was to better your game to go make some money playing open game tourney's.Thanks to the PSO I learned to play the random idiots at other places but I still shoot off the mouth as to why they play the crap they do, just not as quite as much or hateful as I used to . Yes my mouth has simmered alot since the old PSO days where at least once a month I lost a week chat...lol....I'll still throw and occasional DONKAZZ out there but leave it at that , sometimes I won't say nothing at all , I get up outta my computer chair prance around the apartment punching my bed or my leg and my dad and my dog look at me like I lost my fricking mind....Dano said sometimes it's better to say nothing at all then to go off on someone , and I agree with that 100% I was raised if you can't say anything nice about someone don't say anything at all ..al in all it's better for the 2 parties involved cause the next meeting might not be as dreadful and things are forgotten about and pushed under the rug with no extra baggage excalationg the situation.....With that being said ...I started playing in the Drunk tank again bout a month and a half ago a game here and there , and in the last 2 or 3 weeks more frequently and have noticed lot of old faces that have been here prolly as long as me or longer and I noticed a whole lot of new faces and during 1 game bout a week or 2 ago there was someone at my table which was playing lotta hands , was very aggressive and I felt was pushing me off better hands and the one time I said F it and was going to stay till the river to see if this guy had the hot seat or was just over betting to be a pot thief and it turned out I was way ahead pre-flop , post-flop , post-turn , then the river made his hand and the whole time he was betting on nothing then a draw and then he hit , which dwindled my stack down to pratically nothing and I was PISSED!!I didn't say 1 word to him , but like next hand or 2 I shoved the remainder of my chips in with a mediocre hand just to try and suck out but I got railed. He put me on tilt and I say cudos to him in my mind and made notes on him . I went to another table someone was talking about him on a personal note and I chimed in from the rail "I got notes on him and none of them are good" , next thing I knew everyone jumped my case bout how he is a nice guy and his wife is too don't say that bout him .I felt bad for sticking my foot in my mouth , cause I had no right though I wasn't bashing him personally but the way he played. I apologize to those that took it the wrong way . I realized I'm not in the loop anymore and I've been a ghost around here , so in that sense I should of not of said anything at all and thought before I spoke.I WAS VERY PROUD OF THE TANKERS THERE STICKING UP FOR ONE ANOTHER WHEN SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A FELLOW TANKER...LONG LIVE THE DRUNK TANK!!!!!!!! What really bothered me was someone said it's a play money game who cares how he played and my play isn't any better, now that really got under my skin and got my blood boiling and I thought WTF dude THE DRUNK TANK ISN'T ABOUT IF IT'S REAL MONEY OR PLAY MONEY IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF PLAYING GOOD POKER AND CARING BOUT THE GAME ENOUGH TO PLAY RESPECTFUL OF THE GAME AND NOT BE RECKLESS AND CAREFREE...I didn't play here for a couple days after that remark , partially due to my embarrassment of shooting off at the mouth and partially because it was and old school member saying that to another (I consider myself)oldschool member in a disrespectful matter.The person that said that to me I understand you was just sticking up for the newer guy to someone that hasn't been around in a long time...so another KUDOS FOR THE TANKERS I gotta say cause that's a true meaning to being a tanker....The next time I showed up here I managed to keep my cool when me and this person was on the same table didn't say a word just sat there played my game he played his and i took him in a couple hands he took me we both were respectful to each other and it turns out he really is a nice guy , his playing style I still don't agree with ,but after playing on the Merge network I've realized lotta people play that way . It's a controlled aggression and there's atsrtagy to it ..it's not my style , and everyone played the same way poker would be too boring and predictable which it prolly wouldnt be as popular as it is....MAN!!!!!! My 2 cents just turned into $200 sorry for such a long post it won't happen again lol welll not as long...but I can go to sleep now after getting alll this off my chest....CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG>>>LOL GN TC AND SEE YAS AT THE NEXT GAME!!!!

gatehouse999 wrote:

Okay let's make a couple of general rules. You can only play Pairs Or Related Numbers, we will call this P.O.R.N for short also I suggest playing Tight In Threeway Situations, we will refer to this as T.I.T.S. Now the object of this post is try and at least make 1 person smile and or titter(pardon me) and bring the Tank back to thr FUN side of life. Have a good day. Gate

Now that's too funny....I know I know I said I was going to bed but I decided to read from the begining to see where all this drama steamed from and to try and remember the other name of the great on going soap opera of the PSO forum....and Brandy had to help me remember lol Tazzz good ole "darkman and Tazz" fights ...those where some great episodes..lol.....god I wasted lot of time reading those 2 going back and forth at each other LMAO.. Allow the person(s) in question to stay. If their behavior isn't unbearable and are good people let them play with us , if they are commandos what's better us getting their chips or some unknown....Let them stay....Ok I'm out for real now good night

I was invited to join the tank quite a while ago, before BF. I was woot-wooting and nervous as all get out to play with these fine players. I even won a cash tank tourney once, and let me tell you the thrill of that win was much higher than when I won a PSO League game. Why? The competition was hella ferocious and every person playing was WAY above my level in my opinion.

Then something awful happened, and from it, something good. The awful was the Black Friday that killed all US players from cash games. (I keep wondering if it was meant to happen on tax day April 15). Well the good that came from this was Tank 1 was not disbanded, with all the non-US players moving to a new home game or the US players just going homeless. Instead, there was the creation of two Tank Home Clubs. Cash money and virtual (play) money. And to my amazement, the people who COULD leave and play cash games, STAYED and played with us Americans. Not just one or two people either, bunches. And they are still regulars.

They have my utmost respect for keeping Tank 1 going, playing virtual money, even though they could be playing for cash during those 3 to 5 hour daily tourneys. Says a lot about these folks. I also will never forget when an Original Tanker passed some chips to me so I could play in the tank games. I thought that guy hated me, despised my play and my presence. Nobody gives a boatload of chips to somebody they hate or despise. Turns out he is someone I highly respect, because he treated me with decency and kindness, and made sure I had enough chips to play tank games for quite some time.

Thanks to all of you for the friendship and the camaraderie, and for sticking it out when times were bleak and uncovering a rainbow for the rest of us.

Ok I actually think i'm gonna cry now. You are all so special! I'll be seeing you again real soon!

kvance1972 wrote:

What really bothered me was someone said it's a play money game who cares how he played and my play isn't any better, now that really got under my skin and got my blood boiling and I thought WTF dude THE DRUNK TANK ISN'T ABOUT IF IT'S REAL MONEY OR PLAY MONEY IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF PLAYING GOOD POKER AND CARING BOUT THE GAME ENOUGH TO PLAY RESPECTFUL OF THE GAME AND NOT BE RECKLESS AND CAREFREE...

That's been my point from day 1 of this KV. The ones that don't care and the ones that are behind them, let them in here, support the ones that don't care and defend the ones that don't care's actions..... should NOT be here and the games will not be straightened out until that happens. If you won't respect the game and won't respect the others at your table and the others that are in the game, that goes totally against all the principles that the tank was started on (what you stated, plus the fact that we're all here to have fun with EVERYONE in the tank, not just a small group of 'my friends only'.)

I also 100% will say, that until the games are back to what they should be, I won't be in them, as it's a waste of my time. I'd much rather spend my time helping out players that want to make their game better (which is what the tank used to be, good poker with everyone trying to make each other better) or working on my own game.

Where to start....hiccup...lol

I have different groups....lol.....wanting different peeps booted

effin funny

ok...anyways

peeps come...and peeps go

this is a place of fun.....you don''t like it.....leave

but please...if you ever find that place where everyone gets along...please fill me in.

there can only be one............hiccup...lol

so....not booting peeps unless they become a total ass......plain and simple,

not because of your play or stlye.....just your actions

if I did....it would be just me and johnny left

hiccup

Like Will Rogers always said, "I would never want to be in any club that would consider having me as a member."

TrumpinJoe wrote:

zzHONEYBEEzz wrote:

The second... Why should a player ever tell another player their reasoning or strategy behind a play or a hand choice? IF we are playing as we would in real cash (which I am), I shouldn't tell nor suggest any of you to tell your strategy same as you shouldn't show your cards unless you are trying for a direct effect (I am guilty of both sometimes, and it's something I have learned and I am working on). As in cash games if someone comments my play I laugh at them or ignore them entirely. Unless I get tilted, which is NOT good, and probably what the other player was hoping for by making said comment! lol. In order to read me you have to figure that part out on your own and adjust your play accordingly. Reading players is a skill you either have or have to develop being a poker player, and let me say, hand analysis sections help with that aspect if you can't figure it out on your own, and not just by reviewing your own hands but also reading the analysis of others. If you were playing at a live cash table, would you yell out "I was drawing because you gave me the odds to do so... It's my favourite hand!... I played it because you are so tight/loose." I know I wouldn't. Anyhow just my opinion.

In live play I try to talk a bit to the players immediately next to me. Since they have the most effect on your decisions frequently it helps.

As to showing cards, if I have been on a hot streak and people are suspecting me of overplaying I may show a very good hand every once in a while to make bluffing easier. I only show bluffs to try to tilt someone though.

I talk all the time, way too much most of the time

Ditto Joe, I'm with you for showing cards with a purpose. I do have a tendency to show too many because I think, Oh if I show to so-and-so and I don't show to this guy/gal they will think I'm bluffing or not showing out of disrespect and then I show them too and then next time I think well now if I don't continue to show then the rest will think I'm bluffing and when I need to bluff I won't be able to... and so on it snowballs on me. loool I have seen and read some others having the same problem of showing too many hands and so was just making this post to try to help them, and myself also as I'm talking it out, by showing a good reason for not showing.

Great posts mphnascar & kvance!

Obviously we will all sometimes feel upset, angry etc at poker or pokerhands, we are not robots, this will happen. I know when I get upset at poker I try (sometimes unsuccessfully lol) to tell myself that poker is not personal, it is only a game and if it isn't fun it's time to step back a bit. Players play poker and it is an attack (to our stacks), because of the nature of the game but we have to remember that isn't a personal attack it is just the game. Personal attacks are definitely not cool in any form, but poker isn't personal, heck, here it isn't even a person dealing it.

mphnascar, that was so sweet, you nearly made me cry!!! I don't think I've met you yet, but have read your posts and I think you're great with the heart of a true tanker!

JWK I understand where you are coming from, and I agree that people that do not care should not be here. I know it must be really hard for you feeling as if the place you love and call home is being upset or changed into something other than what you thought it was. If I have had anything to do with this, I sincerely apologise. I miss you in the tank, you are always a challenge and such a great help to me understanding concepts of poker, even if you did not know it. Thank you.

Eff & JO, what can I say, love you both, you guys are great. Thank you both for so much for everything you do, AND put up with!! I apologise to you both also for anything and/or everything I have done to contribute to any of the problems here.

I am not really religious but I really like this song, and this is what I try to tell myself when I get discouraged or worry too much or gee even get angry @ poker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3jdbFOidds

megg23 wrote:

sometimes
it is better for some to make no comments at all ..
and everyone of us should care ..





As for the red, this is a forum and we are friends here,.... or so I thought so it is open for discussion otherwise what's the point in having a place to talk at all. It sounds like you are telling me to shut up.. and I don't like your post! After everyone of my posts in this section as well as when we are at the table you have had something to say, I have let you continue as you should have your own views, and I respect that. But quite frankly you are starting to offend me and this is something I am getting rather tired of. For example, your passive-aggressive bullying, If you are replying only to do this you are the exact kind of player I have no wish to be in a club with.



As for the green, of course I care if I didn't I would not be here. AND I would not be making posts to discuss and/or help nor would I post my views at all. I also would not be replying to you in the form I am right now if I did not care.

Sincerely yours, zzHONEYBEEzz

Amazing , first of all HB Meg was responding to a post Dano had made and not you, but you coming up with a post like this is just part of what John was getting at, and certainly what I have seen in the group mentality that has entered the Tank, Meg wouldnt say chit if her mouth was full of it and omg a passive aggressive bully. What planet do you live on, I have seen her and others snubbed night after night in the home games and never say boo.
I read your post twice as I couldnt believe what I was seeing , this is just abit over the top and you want to get along with everyone... and then say that Meg is exactly the kind of player you dont want in the club. GEEZ

if you notice the time stamps on that, she edited it to say that afterwards... twice, within nearly 2 hours. I quoted her entire original post, which was posted directly after my post.

What I actually said was if that was what she was doing, then she is exactly the type of player I have no wish to be in a club with. I didn't say she didn't need to be in the tank, that isn't for me to say, but what I said were my feelings and is how I feel. There seems to be alot you don't know about and I know there's alot most of you don't know as to this story. The fact and problem is I cannot share my information as it would directly violate privacy agreements. We are all grown ups here and can say what we feel, noone stops her from saying and doing the things she wants. I do try my best to get along with everyone but I am human and have feelings and when I am goaded, mocked and prodded repeatedly, made to feel that someone has a personal problem for which I cannot find any reason other than being myself and yes, indeed bullied and censored... well I have to say so and stick up for myself. As for people snubbing her well that's not my fault, what I do know is if a lot of people were snubbing me maybe I should look to myself for the answers as to why this was happening as I MUST have done something to these people.

As I stated a couple of weeks ago, I am finishing out the month with the Funny Farm if I am allowed to stay.

You want to call me out on it, fine, you are also entitled to your opinion, but you should know there is alot more to this that you don't know. I hope you never experience the things I have.

Oh, will post seperately as you will know what my entire original post says.

I guess what I'm being called out for here is for saying my feelings out in public versus in private where noone else can see what's being said.

If this is unnacceptable I apologise, but I stick by my posts and my feelings.

yes hb i edited it ./ not denying that atall
but that was to explain to yu and apologize if yu took it wrong ..
and unfortuneatley yes it was after your post .i put it in
.. but as i stated it was in reply to dans and nothing else ./my error for not clarifying it right off

the second edit was i forgot to leave in the original and i didnt want to do that ..
so i put it back .at the top
. and thats all .. unfortuneately i am not so computer friendly so it takes me a couple trys..
i am not makeing this a personnel issue and im sorry yu are takeing this personally .. that was never what was intended ..
you are entitled to your opinion and your feelings ..and also doing and saying what yu want ..as yu have ..
i was open and honest with you
and im sorry if you now feel you need to use that to make me the heavy here ..
i guess that was my mistake and hopefully this will bring this to an end ..

Really sorry to De-Rail a bit and amuse myself but if there's gonna be a catfight can we do it in Custard ? It's always been my fav and i just can't get enough....... Have Fun Ladies and remember NO hair pulling or biting, I think I better stop here.

Putting on another pot of coffee to digest the latest posts here.
Michelle's just proves...women forget NOTHING!!!


I do want to quickly say that as I glanced at a couple lines here and there...I personally don't feel like I'm in a policing situation as a board member. I just give my two cents on situations, suggest things (like anyone can), and give a vote which is only 1 of 5 and counts as 1 of 7. I only feel a responsibility to weigh in on matters, not decide them nor influence them. I feel very comfortable that the board voting results on any issue will be the best resolution, so if they don't vote the same as me, I'm more than cool with that.
Okay,,,gotta find the extra-caffeinated blend now.

Well said Chelle. I play here, when I have the time, for the enjoyment. I may not chat a lot but I enjoy watching the banter when I am not in a hand or surfing. We are each here for our own reasons. Personally, I am quite tolerant of other's play as I welcome the challenge of finding a way to exploit it. (I never enjoyed the PSO leagues as the best strategy was to be ridiculously uber-tight, i.e, not play.) To me poker is like a jig-saw puzzle where you have to find the right piece for the place. In poker its the right action for the situation.

One lesson it took me way too long to learn is that I am responsible for my own happiness. If I let others take it away it is my mistake and not their's. No matter how they act or what they say, I am still am and will always be me.

chelle867 wrote:

Those that wish to be what I call "SPOONS"... cuz they like to stir the shit...

I've always called them sparrows as they stir up sh*t then fly away.

As always YMMV.

I give up .............


All Im thinking is one flew over the coocoos nest
and
did you know organic oatmeal blossoms are fertilized by free-range goat turds

needing some of jellykits coffee

gatehouse999 wrote:

Really sorry to De-Rail a bit and amuse myself but if there's gonna be a catfight can we do it in Custard ? It's always been my fav and i just can't get enough....... Have Fun Ladies and remember NO hair pulling or biting, I think I better stop here.

How about Jello Gates?? With wet T-Shirts??

OMG you make me laugh!!!!


AND....... TJ; love it!!

Chelle, thank you for a very eloquent post. Differences will always arise in large groups, it's how we handle them that is a true measure of our worth.

joy7108 wrote:

Chelle, thank you for a very eloquent post. Differences will always arise in large groups, it's how we handle them that is a true measure of our worth.

ty Joy (blush), guess I didn't handle it too good after all... I sure miss playing with you....

Ty TJ as well... hearing from you both means a lot to me... very wise words and great advice always from you two.

I hope everyone has a great rest of the day.

♥ Michelle

Like effsea once said... it's been fun.

I wish everyone the best, take care...

Brayleegirl wrote:

gatehouse999 wrote:

Really sorry to De-Rail a bit and amuse myself but if there's gonna be a catfight can we do it in Custard ? It's always been my fav and i just can't get enough....... Have Fun Ladies and remember NO hair pulling or biting, I think I better stop here.

How about Jello Gates?? With wet T-Shirts??

OMG you make me laugh!!!!


AND....... TJ; love it!!

turn on the webcam.

Chelle, where did it go I got a cup of Dano's coffee and poof its gone.
You had some good points, sorry I didn't get to absorb more. thx